this is emblem attic of all these nice things you have said this week for the victims of the newtown connecticut tragedy. we love the way you all have been strong in support of them. >> thank you. i very much appreciate that. michael, let me ask you, what do you want to be avoiding in 2013? >> i think you have to look at it from the standpoint of extreme. it's clearly in the bond market. it's clearly in the love for dividends. it's clearly in the love for income versus capital appreciation, versus cycle kral. i call this the rocky balboa stock market. we've had tremendous swings from the bears. you cannot deny the resilience, best year since '09. how is it comparatively smaller fiscal cliff going to do it? >> he does have a point. the relative strength of this market this year has been impressive given all the headwinds that this market has. >> it's been macho ka macho. that's the fighter who just passed away in puerto rico. it has taken blows like you can't believe and has hung in there. and the market leads the economy, not the economy leads the market. we remain defensively positioned because